15.06.2008

VanceS contributed 148 messages, 2 emotes during 136 minutes. 2008.06.15 05:06:36 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. ThomasLev: Hi Vance! VanceS: hi all ThomasLev: not much going on here actually VanceS: early still SedatA: yes.. VanceS: hi sedat SedatA: hi Vance SedatA: how are you SedatA: ? VanceS: good question, pretty good SedatA smiles VanceS: that's the short answer SedatA: I am glad to hear this VanceS: yeah, no students around VanceS: just wrapping up loose end VanceS: ends VanceS: how about you? VanceS: and Tom? SedatA: I am also a student... SedatA :) SedatA: I just completed my projects VanceS: good, relieved? SedatA: and submitted them on Friday ThomasLev: I'm grading papers ThomasLev: I hope your papers are better than the ones I'm grading, Sedat VanceS: Tom is still slogging away SedatA smiles ThomasLev: sometimes I take a break & do pop art SedatA: I hope they are... VanceS: how does one 'do' pop art? ThomasLev: one takes the mac photo booth function ThomasLev: which puts anything in front of the computer into either pop art, or cartoon ThomasLev: and then click away ThomasLev: http://tlevsstuff.blogspot.com PiyapornR joined the room. ThomasLev: oops sorry http://tlevspopart.blogspot.com ThomasLev: Hi Piyapom ThomasLev: scroll down & you'll see the webheads PiyapornR: Hi Thomas VanceS: Hi Piyaporn ThomasLev: so I slog away on these papers, then, turn on the camera SedatA: hi Piyaporn PiyapornR: Hi everyone ThomasLev: on TH they gave us a mouse pad ThomasLev: so I put the camera on it PiyapornR: This is my second time for tapped in VanceS: welcome ThomasLev: yes, welcome VanceS: on TH? ThomasLev: Thursday VanceS: I see you have a tribute to webhaeads ThomasLev: yes that came from my TESOL badge ThomasLev: my problem is that it's all mirror image ThomasLev: the right software will turn it around, but I don't have the software DennisOl joined the room. ThomasLev: & can't download it ThomasLev: Hi Dennis! SedatA: hi Dennis VanceS: you can just flip them can't you? ThomasLev: One is called Gimp VanceS: Hey Dennis? VanceS: Gimp won't flip? DennisOl: Hi, folks. ThomasLev: Gimp will flip but I can't download Gimp ThomasLev: OS too old, maybe? VanceS: hmmm VanceS: how about irfanview ThomasLev: what's that? VanceS: a thumbnail viewer, free PiyapornR: what is that? VanceS: I have it at home DennisOl: http://www.irfanview.com/ SedatA: I use ACDSee ThomasLev: thanks! ThomasLev: hmm SedatA: I used Irfanview but ACDSee is what I am looking for ThomasLev: I have access to photoshop in a lab but of course I don't want to leave my desk DennisOl: http://www.acdsee.com/ ThomasLev: aha, thanks SedatA: you can edit photos or view them very easily on ACDSee ThomasLev: I'm also interested in taking regular photos from the web and turning them into pop art ThomasLev: which I know isn't too hard DennisOl: "Turning them into pop art": What, exactly, do you mean by this? VanceS: he means http://tlevspopart.blogspot.com/ ThomasLev: here are some more http://tlevs.blogspot.com ThomasLev: the newer macs just make these from their own camera DennisOl: OK, I understand. Thanks. ThomasLev: the wild colors are interesting, & so are the cartoon graphics ThomasLev: actually it's all a diversion from endless essays & research papers ThomasLev: about sea pollution & the antarctic ice shelves VanceS: how will pengins stock their cupboard when their ice shelves are gone? ThomasLev: poor penguins are doomed VanceS . o O ( sorry detected a dead space there ... ) ThomasLev: several people are doing krill ThomasLev: I can tell you whatever you want to know about the Antarctic VanceS: are your students still blogging? ThomasLev: yes ThomasLev: most of it is here ThomasLev: http://cesleap2.blogspot.com ThomasLev: the papers on the Antarctic are on the personal weblogs off the template on the right JeffC joined the room. ThomasLev: Hi Jeff! JeffC waves DennisOl: Hi, Jeff. VanceS: hi Jeff, still up? SedatA: hi Jeff VanceS: how are people's summer plans shaping up? JeffC: well... just woke up a little while ago. JeffC: slept about 4 hours. VanceS: that's good, 4 hours solid is not bad ThomasLev: a person can live on that ThomasLev: not much for summer plans here ThomasLev: going to New Mexico for a weekend though JeffC: fun DennisOl: Not much here, either. No trips planned. DennisOl: Where in New Mexico, Tom? ThomasLev: my parents are in Las Cruces DennisOl: Ah, I see. I've been there, but not for a long time. VanceS: my wife is in Houston now ThomasLev: my band partner spends the month in Kerrville ThomasLev: she must know every folk musician in Texas VanceS: I guess there are some good ones there ThomasLev: I can only imagine VanceS: I haven't spent much time in texas lately but I grew up there, and it was getting progressive ThomasLev: I used to hang around with Houston ESL teachers at TESOLs DennisOl: Years ago, I spent time in Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio. I lived in Dallas for a number of years. VanceS: I'm having a bit of trouble getting energized this summer VanceS: I guess it was a tiring year ThomasLev: If you know the difference between TexTESOL II and TexTESOL IV... DennisOl: That's not necessarily a negative thing. VanceS: what was the difference tom? ThomasLev: I don't know it DennisOl: Here's a TEXTESOL map: DennisOl: http://www.textesol.org/ ThomasLev: looks like textesol 4 has been taken over by web spammers VanceS: I was just noticing that NinaTL joined the room. ThomasLev: Hi Nina! VanceS: hey nina NinaTL: Morning guys DennisOl: Hi, Nina. NinaTL wonders if Piyaporn is a guy or not VanceS: also at this website you can "Read the minutes from the Presidents' Council Meetings, March 2003." DennisOl: Yes, that's how it looks, Tom. Amazing at how different the different TEXTESOL websites are. JeffC: her avatar says she's female, nina. NinaTL: Oops, sorry Piyaporn! PiyapornR: it's ok PiyapornR: I'm an observer NinaTL: We are all observers DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes . . . . VanceS: we are participant-observers VanceS: coffee dennis? NinaTL: Here is an interesting article from today's Washington Post about "the impending death of the English sentence" at the hands of blogging, IMing and the like: NinaTL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/12/AR2008061202258.html NinaTL: It cheers me somewhat to know my students are not the only ones crucifying the sentence VanceS: would this be a 'death sentence'? NinaTL Silence reigns as everyone checks out the article NinaTL: haha NinaTL: Actually those are the search words I used at washingtonpost.com to find it! NinaTL: worked like a charm (a non-sentence) VanceS: interesting ThomasLev thinking of "period" pus.... ThomasLev: puns VanceS: I think it's garbage, nothing to worry about ThomasLev: sorry! NinaTL: I have noticed a plethora of fragments in fiction and nonfiction alike that I have my students read NinaTL: and I have wondered if it has always been that way NinaTL: or if I just notice it more VanceS: everything evolves NinaTL: Did J Fenimore Cooper use sentence fragments? ThomasLev: Learn the rules then break them -Basho VanceS: would you want us to still be writing like chaucer? NinaTL: Unfortunately it's confusing for students NinaTL: Well, hey, Vance, he wrote in a different English! NinaTL: Also maybe he did use fragments? VanceS: if things are confusing it's because the rich tapestry of existence is inherently complex NinaTL imagines Dennis scurrying to find an example of a Chaucerian fragment VanceS: people simplify for convenience NinaTL: I think the point is whether we know if what we are writing qualifies as a grammatical sentence or not, so we can avoid it when the situation calls for it NinaTL: (it=avoiding fragments) ThomasLev remembers when "fragging" was a crime soldiers were guilty of NinaTL: btw, my sister gave me an ancient iPod the other day NinaTL: my first NinaTL: I don't know exactly what to do with it ThomasLev: find a teenager NinaTL: haha good advice VanceS: download iTunes ThomasLev: I'm serious! NinaTL: but this one is really old, bigger than a pack of cigarettes ThomasLev: that's what I'd do NinaTL: My own teenager is as clueless as I am NinaTL: I suppose it will need a new battery for starters NinaTL: My daughter wants to know if we can download music from the internet and then burn it onto a CD with this thing NinaTL: I think we don't need the iPod to do that, do we? ClaireB joined the room. VanceS: in order to load the ipod you first download music to your computer ClaireB: hi ghuys ClaireB: guys ThomasLev: the iPod would be an unnecessary step NinaTL: When you download music, say from iTunes, do you just establish a credit account and get billed, 99 cents at a time? ThomasLev: Hi Claire! NinaTL: Hey, Claire NinaTL hugs Claire VanceS: hi claire ThomasLev hugs Claire ClaireB: nina, you can set up an account and associate that account with a credit card ClaireB hugs all NinaTL: They bill you monthly? VanceS: I used to have an ipod and being a pc person I was not an afficionado of iTunes NinaTL: But iTunes is now on PCs, right? DennisOl: Hi, Claire. Hugs! VanceS: all my downloads were of free stuff ClaireB: just your bias against apple NinaTL: Where is the free stuff? NinaTL: wb, Dennis ClaireB: itunes has quite a bit of free content, by the way VanceS: my first computer was an apple DennisOl: Thanks, Nina. NinaTL: One song a week, I think? NinaTL: My first computer was a Mac Plus NinaTL: It didn't even have a hard drive DennisOl: I've had lots of Macs. NinaTL: Excuse me, going afk VanceS: mine was an apple II+ no hdd ClaireB: my first mac had a hard drive, but my first apple didn't ThomasLev: everyone's lost in nostalgia ThomasLev: I'm still on macs ClaireB: my lab has more pcs than macs, and i like both ClaireB: by the way, happy father's day to all the fathers present ThomasLev: thank you! DennisOl: Yes, indeed. Happy Father's Day! ThomasLev: can you do pop art on pc's? VanceS: thanks for the FDay greetings ThomasLev: by that I mean, turn on the computer camera, set it for pop art, and shoot? ClaireB: lol tom VanceS: is that a camera thing or a mac thing? ClaireB: it's my impression that in general you can do the same things on both platforms ThomasLev: last term I was totally bogged down with papers VanceS: my impressions are that macs are more attuned to multimedia ThomasLev: & I started turning around & doing pop art on my computer VanceS: pcs more attuned to connectivity VanceS: pcs are cheaper VanceS: and no one likes vista ClaireB: yeah vista is awful ClaireB: i tell people if they just want to type and do email, they should buy a pc NinaTL: wishes all the dads a Happy Father's Day DennisOl: I'm thinking of getting an Intel Mac. What are the basic things I'll need to make it read both Mac and PC items? JeffC: virtual pc ClaireB: you need to get some software like parallels or bootcamp fusion VanceS: I would like to get an aesis, is that it? NinaTL: I have Vista on this computer. What should I not like about it? DennisOl: No, I don't like Virtual PC. ClaireB: no, virtual pc was a generation ago ClaireB: i run parallels on my mac, and it works very well NinaTL: I really would like to know DennisOl: I'm thinking Parallels. ClaireB: it is very different from virtual pc DennisOl: What else besides Parallels? ClaireB: nina, if your computer does what you want it to, then don't worry about it NinaTL: That's what I thought DennisOl: Like how difficult is it to find Windows XP? NinaTL: I have never had trouble with it ClaireB: dennis, what do you want to do with the computer? ClaireB: find windows xp for what? where? DennisOl: Mainly I want to be able to access certain multimedia things that don't seem to work on a Mac. NinaTL: But here's a question: suddenly it started telling me every time I boot it up that Windows is preventing some start-up progams from launching ClaireB: then parallels should do it. pareallesl includes a license for windows xp NinaTL: It seems to be Adobe Update Manager that it won't launch DennisOl: Is XP included with Parallels, then? NinaTL: but it tells me that program is "permitted" ClaireB: yes DennisOl: What a bargain, then! ClaireB: vance, can you answer nina's question? VanceS: adobe is another monster ClaireB: i just lied to you, dennis; my husband says that when you use parallels, you have to buy windows xp separately. ClaireB: i didn't remember that since i have generic campus licenses for these things VanceS: what's the problem Nina, from the beginnign? NinaTL: But here's a question: suddenly it started telling me every time I boot it up that Windows is preventing some start-up progams from launching DennisOl: OK, I thought so, Claire. NinaTL: It seems to be Adobe Update Manager that it won't launch VanceS: why not just remove the adobe update manager from your system startup VanceS: you don't want adobe checking for updates all the time NinaTL: OK, how do I do that? VanceS: what do you use adobe for? VanceS: pdf reader only? NinaTL: What else might I use it for? NinaTL: I think reader only VanceS: well, there's adobe air which allows you to run twhirl for example NinaTL: Never used it VanceS: frankly the best thing to do is uninstall adobe reader and install something else VanceS: anyone have any suggestiions? VanceS: I know one but its name slips me NinaTL: I can read pdf's with something other than adobe? VanceS: Foxit reader? ThomasLev: I need to be able to change pdf's and then upload them again VanceS: that's one, http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php VanceS: I use Cute PDF myself to create PDF documents VanceS: I use pdfs a lot in class through Moodle ThomasLev: what is Cute PDF? ClaireB: me, i don't like twhirl but i can't remember why VanceS: us old folks are having real memory issues today ClaireB: who you calling old??? NinaTL: I own up to being old VanceS: not you claire, i meant us old folks ThomasLev: what memory? ClaireB: well i just discovered that next week i have to sign up for medicare VanceS: at least you can get senior discounts? ClaireB: ha -- i've been getting senior discounts since i was 62 VanceS: I took my son up to the top of the San Antonio needle for lunch NelbaQ joined the room. NinaTL: Hi Nelba VanceS: and that was the first time I got a sr discount NelbaQ: morning, everybody!!! ClaireB hugs nelba ThomasLev: Hi Nelba! NinaTL: Where are you, Vance? VanceS: hi Nelba VanceS: I'm here in Tapped in, where are you? ClaireB: i can go to my local movie any time and just pay the matinee price ThomasLev: there's always a first time VanceS: I'm in Abu Dhabi :-) DennisOl: Hi, Nelba. ¡Abrazos! ClaireB: maybe when i turn 65, there will be more discounts NelbaQ: Hi, Dennia!!! NelbaQ: Dennis! NelbaQ: sorry, I am a bit sleepy... NelbaQ: yesterday was a looonnng NelbaQ: day VanceS: well, we're talking about what to do instead of Adobe NinaTL: The only place I get a senior discount so far is the pool and the AARP DennisOl: "Dennia" is OK. It sounds like a Russian nickname. ThomasLev: the mail starts coming from AARP when you turn 50 NelbaQ: Jennifer Verschoor and I gave a presentation NelbaQ: about Web 2 in Buenos Aires VanceS: because adobe is very inconsiderate software NelbaQ: and we were nervous NinaTL: How did it go? NelbaQ: Our first time in a big event VanceS: bottom line, look for alternatives NelbaQ: Gladys Baya was also there... NinaTL: I don't like pdf's NinaTL: I often can't scroll on them NelbaQ: she spoke about writing using computing tools NelbaQ: unfortunatelly I could not listen to her... NelbaQ: her presentation was too early 4 me :( NinaTL: I see on Facebook she was working on her handout VanceS: I tagged this from something in twitter maybe? http://www.slideshare.net/jenverschoor/the-web-20-lifestyle/ SedatA left the room (signed off). NelbaQ: yes, Gladys' hand out was very good. NelbaQ: One funny thing... NelbaQ: Jennifer and I wanted to show the audience that we use NelbaQ: technology instead of paper handouts... NelbaQ: to be coherent with our presentation... NelbaQ: and some people complained... NelbaQ: they wanted things in black and white :S ClaireB: Nelba, are you the same Nelba who is going to WorldCALL in Japan? NelbaQ: yes, Claire. ClaireB: Wonderful! NelbaQ: Yes, counting the days!!!! NelbaQ: looking foward to meet Webheads there!!! ClaireB: we'll have to have some type of webheads meeting there VanceS: I'm sure we will NelbaQ: are U going 2? ClaireB: yes NelbaQ: great! ClaireB: I'm co-chair of the program NelbaQ: ah, I remember... U R going with your husband, aren´t U¿? ClaireB: so very busy right now NinaTL: When is it? NelbaQ: I imagine. what an envent ClaireB: yes, and this is the first time he has ever left the country, except for canada ClaireB: he is going to do one of the excursions to a volcano DennisOl: Very nice slides, Nelba. NelbaQ: yesterday there was a slight movement NelbaQ: thanks, Dennis... DennisOl smiles ClaireB: the earthquake? NelbaQ: but after the presentation... I would do some changes... NelbaQ: yes NelbaQ: Mary Hillis told me it was slight DennisOl: Slight? ThomasLev: hmm NinaTL: Over 7.0 NinaTL: Is that slight in japan? DennisOl: Ah--"slight" referred to the earthquake. ThomasLev: Maybe the volcano in Chile? NelbaQ: I twitter Mary and she said she did not feel anything ThomasLev: or was that an earthquake? DennisOl: Or did it? I'm confused. PiyapornR left the room (signed off). PiyapornR joined the room. DennisOl: OK. Got it now. ClaireB: it was in the north of japan NelbaQ: have not heard anything about Chile... ThomasLev: Antarctica has a 7.0 tremor every day ClaireB: wow ThomasLev: from a glacier hitting the ice ThomasLev: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/sciencemedicine/story/2160F308F5BF2248862574630012E45E?OpenDocument NelbaQ: global warming is doing disasters in Antartida (South pole) too NelbaQ: can I ask you a question? NelbaQ: because yesterday I was talking about RSS... NelbaQ: and one person told me that RSS are not readable in some browsers NelbaQ: is that true? DennisOl: Fascinating article, Tom. ThomasLev: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7381652.stm ThomasLev: this is Chile VanceS: what do you mean RSS not readable in some browsers ThomasLev: but I can tell you all kinds of stuff about Antarctica NelbaQ: that you cannot see RSS with some browsers VanceS: maybe that person means the code you see if you put an rss link in a browser ThomasLev: Larsen-B, Wilkins, Larsen-C.... NelbaQ: he said that if your browser is older than IE 6 you cannot reed the feeds ThomasLev: those are the names of the ice shelves... VanceS: you don't want to read the feeds in a browser, you want to read them in a feed reader BjB joined the room. BjB hugs warmly DennisOl: Hi, BJ. NinaTL: Hi BJ VanceS: Hi BJ ThomasLev: Hi BJ! NelbaQ: yes, I know... well I wanted to say that RSS do not work if your browser is .... NelbaQ: Hi BJ! ClaireB: hi bj ClaireB hugs bj VanceS: we were talking about antarctic tremors ClaireB: yes, but why not read feeds in a browser, vance/ VanceS: and rss feed readers etc VanceS: read feeds in a browser ... I think I'm missing something NelbaQ: I think that actual rss feed readers do not have any problems... VanceS: can you give me an example of a feed you read in a browser? NelbaQ: I have never heard or read about what this person mentioned NelbaQ: bloglines VanceS: oh, that's a feed reader VanceS: yes, of course, I see VanceS: you mean point your browser to Google Reader or Bloglines VanceS: and you say that in older browsers, those sites won't read the feeds? NelbaQ: yep VanceS: is that a problem? Why not just upgrade the browser? NelbaQ: i think This teacher wanted to call my attention... RitaZ joined the room. NelbaQ: because he did not explain clearly. NelbaQ: What problem may you have with RSS? NinaTL hugs Rita DennisOl: Rita! Abrazos! VanceS: maybe we should upgrade this teacher ;-) ThomasLev: http://blog.moertel.com/articles/2007/09/11/bloglines-doesnt-handle-inter-element-white-space-properly VanceS: Hi rita RitaZ: ;hugs all good day NelbaQ: Hi, Rita!!! ClaireB hugs rita ClaireB: maybe we should upgrade ourselves RitaZ hugs huggers back tightly ThomasLev: this article is about bloglines screwing up ThomasLev: but, have to go ThomasLev: happy Father's Day! RitaZ wonders what's she's missed today ThomasLev: hugs to Rita RitaZ: HUGS; Tom! NelbaQ: Happy Father's Day! NelbaQ: Is it an international day???? RitaZ: thanks :-) ThomasLev left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Interesting article, Tom. It explains some strange behavior that I've noticed before. NelbaQ: hahaha , Vance... RitaZ: my son gives me a ring on Father's Day :-) NelbaQ: there is always people who want to call attention. ClaireB: rita, we are talking about getting old ClaireB: and needing upgrades RitaZ: uhhhhhhh, what a topic I missed! DennisOl chuckles VanceS: yes, I guess we upgrade ourselves each sunday about this time RitaZ: any fast conclusion? DennisOl: Good explanation for these Sunday-morning chats: upgrading. NelbaQ: we do not get older but wiser VanceS: conclusion, fast, teacher objection to RSS over-ruled RitaZ: ah, thanks, Vance VanceS . o O ( in my humble opinion of course ;- ) RitaZ: you are too humble, Vance NinaTL: Sometimes we get both older and wiser NinaTL: sometimes just older RitaZ: YES, NINA! NelbaQ: LOL ClaireB: oh, we are also much, much wiser NinaTL: btw does anyone know what OTOH means? NinaTL: got it ClaireB: on the other hand? NinaTL: figured it out VanceS: on the yep NinaTL: I like "on the yep" ClaireB: what does on the yep mean? RitaZ: lol NinaTL: whatever you want it to, I guess NinaTL: I am sorry NinaTL: I am a bit puchy today NinaTL: punchy! lol VanceS: yep yep NinaTL: I have a question: How can I get rid of my Yahoo Toolbar? I don't use it and I'd like a bigger window RitaZ: that reminds me of the Thai Chi philosophy, learning how to live and appreciate your body as it changes while your mind grows wiser NelbaQ: you want to my PC NelbaQ: upload software VanceS: two ways NelbaQ: and take it away VanceS: one View / Toolbars, and deselect it NinaTL listens to Vance NinaTL: Good one VanceS: another way, uninistall it NinaTL: Done! NelbaQ: I agree with you, Rita NinaTL: This is better; if for some reason I need it again I can get it NinaTL: That was so easy! NelbaQ: install Google bar, NelbaQ: it is much better, Nina NelbaQ: you can bookmark from it NelbaQ: and have all Google tools at hand NinaTL: btw I am planning to write a proposal for the WATESOL convention next October on this CoP VanceS: great NelbaQ: super ClaireB: is watesol in the dc area, or is it the one in the west? NinaTL: Can you recommend some hsitory/appreciation/analysis articles about the webheads? I have some saved I know but maybe I have missed something good NinaTL: dc NelbaQ: nop :( DennisOl: http://www.watesol.org/ NinaTL: Vance, you must have some good articles RitaZ: Vance has got a compendium NelbaQ: I am sure, Vance has ! LOL VanceS: http://vancestevens.com/papers DafneG joined the room. NelbaQ: see NinaTL: Okay NinaTL: Hi Daf! NinaTL hugs Daf VanceS: maybe if you do a search in there on webheads NelbaQ: hi Daf!!! VanceS: Hi Daf DennisOl: Dafne! Abrazos! RitaZ hugs dear Dafie HI! NinaTL: Thanks, Vance DafneG hugs and kisses everyone on both cheeks ClaireB: hi daf ClaireB hugs daf ClaireB: nina, i think that teresa maintains a page of links to webheads stuff; i'll look for it DafneG: nice to be here after such a long time NinaTL: Thanks, Claire, that would be great RitaZ: so nice to see you, Daf! so long! CarlaA joined the room. ClaireB: here are tere's resources: http://www.malhatlantica.pt/teresadeca/indiceoverview.htm#Webheads DafneG: yes, now with the change in hours in my country, coming here on Sun is difficult NelbaQ: Hi, Carla ClaireB: hi carla DafneG hugs Carla ClaireB hugs carl NinaTL: Thank you so much, Claire! CarlaA: hey, Everybody! ClaireB: carla ClaireB: tudo bem? NinaTL hugs Carla NelbaQ: Waht time is with you, Daf? DafneG: 9 am now CarlaA: tudo ótimo, Clarinha! NelbaQ: here is nearly 11 a.m. RitaZ: th/everything is being made more and more difficult in Venezuela, same as in Arg VanceS: here's one - Stevens, V. (2004). Webheads communities: Writing tasks interleaved with synchronous online communication and web page development. In Leaver, B. and Willis, J. (Eds.). Task-based instruction in foreign language education: Practices and programes. Georgetown University Press. pp. 204-217. DennisOl: Carlinha! Abraços! VanceS: # There is a full text of a late draft of my article here, though references are not included: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/taskbase_ch10june192003.htm. DafneG: I go to bed very late (too early) and I try to get some sleep in the morning CarlaA: hey, Dennis! DennisOl: Hey! VanceS: Ginga! DennisOl chuckles NinaTL: Mille grazie, everyone! My proposal and presentation are as good as done ClaireB: well, dennis and i are going to meet next march, and the rest of you webheads will have to send us flowers, lol NinaTL: LOL DafneG: oh, that´s cool, Claire CarlaA: hey, Vance, full of ginga here! RitaZ: oh, what a treat, Clarita! VanceS: on what occasion? NinaTL: is doing yesterday's jigzone puzzle CarlaA: Claire, I'm soooo jealous! Japan will never be the same! CarlaA: in August. ClaireB: vance, calico will be held in arizona next march DafneG: Rita, I really enjoyed the talk with your students ClaireB: march 10 and there after VanceS: I went to a CALICO in Flagstaff once ClaireB: yes, i remember RitaZ: that was good, wasn't it? I loved it! the recording is up RitaZ: Daf ClaireB: this one is hosted by arizona state univ. part will be held downtown in phoenix, and part will be held in tempe CarlaA: where's the recording, Rita? ClaireB: carla, yes, you're right; after the webheads hit japan, it will never be the same! RitaZ: a sec, pl DafneG: I hope they were not too scared VanceS: are they close by? DafneG: have you packed, Nelba? ClaireB: just remember that fukuoka will be hot and humid NelbaQ: sorry, people I must get Father's Day lunch ready... NelbaQ: great to see you. NelbaQ: bye! ClaireB: good to see you here, nelba NelbaQ: packing, Daf NelbaQ: LOL DennisOl: I also enjoyed talking with your students, Rita—and I've listened to all (or maybe almost all) of the recordings. SedatA joined the room. NelbaQ left the room (signed off). RitaZ: my pc is so lazy today, Ill give you the url in a sec DennisOl: Welcome back, Sedat. SedatA: I was disconnected.... SedatA: hi again VanceS: Hi Sedat CarlaA: OK, rita RitaZ: https://culturalinglesarosario.pbwiki.com/ ClaireB: hi sedat DafneG left the room (signed off). SedatA: hi Claire DafneG joined the room. SedatA: btw, I want to share an URL with you... http://64.225.158.80/proofs/Marriott/18.pdf ClaireB: rita, that wiki requires a password RitaZ: let me check ClaireB: sedat, you work with arif RitaZ left the room (signed off). SedatA: yes.. he is my supervisor SedatA: during my MA thesis.. DafneG: cool, Sedat ClaireB: i met arif once at tesol SedatA: thanks... ClaireB: nice guy DafneG: me too DennisOl: Try this one: DennisOl: http://caeb2008.pbwiki.com/ SedatA: he helped me too much... VanceS: I met both Arif and Sedat in Ankara not long ago DafneG: he used to come here a lot ClaireB: yes, i remember VanceS: to where, Daf? DafneG: Arif used to come to tapped in VanceS: oh, I thought you meant venezuela or spain DafneG: lol ClaireB: no, she is speaking virtually DafneG: right, Claire SedatA: I misunderstood, either....:) DafneG -) PiyapornR left the room. ClaireB: vance, how is your granddaughter? VanceS: http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/chat2001/wfw011031.htm VanceS: just dug out this link VanceS: granddaughter gave me a big smile this morning ClaireB: that is cool DafneG: how does it feel to be a granddad, Vance? DafneG: my son married last year VanceS: a granddad, why back in my day we didn't even HAVE internet JeffC left the room (signed off). RitaZ joined the room. DennisOl: Welcome back, Rita. DafneG: wb rita ClaireB: wb, rita RitaZ: sorry, guys, my pc went frantic RitaZ: http://caeb2008.pbwiki.com/ RitaZ: thats the wiki ClaireB: yes, daf; i remember seeing the photos of your son's wedding ClaireB: you were nice enough to share them with us DafneG: but they are not ready yet to be parents - they are waiting RitaZ: Daf, could I see thr photos? CarlaA: Rita, this is soooo neat! DafneG: let me look for them, just a sec RitaZ: thanks, Carla :-) SedatA: I have to leave.... I celebrate my father's Father's Day before it gets dark... NinaTL: Are the interviews posted somewhere, Rita? RitaZ: I had to write a case study for Manchester University and of course included this project NinaTL: It's Father's Day in Turkey too? SedatA: yes NinaTL: Have a good one VanceS: nice to see you sedat RitaZ: yes, Nina, they're are on the wiki SedatA: see you... NinaTL: Enjoy your time with your dad ClaireB: bye sedat RitaZ: bye, Sedat SedatA: byess NinaTL: "Log in to edit" DennisOl: Take care, Sedat. NinaTL: I don't see them there DafneG: these are from the religious ceremony: http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/201556/overview#7215534 SedatA left the room (signed off). NinaTL: Oops sorry NinaTL: I have to expand the window NinaTL: I will have a look mas tarde RitaZ: at the bottom of each page, click on links on your right, Nina RitaZ: ok ;-) RitaZ: thanks, Daf! DafneG -) NinaTL: I am multi-windowing RitaZ: I'll take a look later to enjoy each :-) NinaTL: I think I have to go now NinaTL: Time to go for a walk with my hubby NinaTL: It's an absolutely gorgeous day here RitaZ: wow, enjoy, NIna! DennisOl: Have a wonderful day, Nina! NinaTL: So nice to connect with you all here in cyberspace ClaireB: have a great day, nina DafneG: Btw, these are my presentations for the SLanguages 2008 event: http://dafnegonzalez.pbwiki.com/SL-SLanguages08-2 http://dafnegonzalez.pbwiki.com/SL-SLanguages08-1 NinaTL: Have a lovely week DafneG: bye, NIna! CarlaA left the room (signed off). NinaTL left the room (signed off). RitaZ: you too, thanks! ClaireB: i should go too; goodbye, guys VanceS: bye all who are leaving RitaZ: bye, Clari! have a great week! ClaireB left the room (signed off). DafneG: bye Claire VanceS: I'm bubblesharing and multiwindowing DennisOl: Take care, Claire—and thankr ts for the help. DafneG: lol, Vance DennisOl: I also need to leave. I've enjoyed the time here! DafneG: nice to see you, Dennis :-) DennisOl: Take care, everyone. DennisOl: Likewise, Dafne. RitaZ: bye, dear friend Dennism, and thanks for your support! DennisOl: It's always my pleasure, Rita. RitaZ :-) VanceS: cya dennis DennisOl: Bye . . . . . DennisOl left the room (signed off). DafneG: I need to go too, have a meeting in SL RitaZ: enjoy, Daf! have a great Sunday! DafneG: you too, dear :-) VanceS: thanks for stopping in DafneG: my pleasure VanceS: about to delicious your presentations DafneG -) DafneG: bfn DafneG left the room (signed off). RitaZ: Vance, your interview with my stsd was good, the firls were so happy RitaZ: girls RitaZ: and the song you sung was good ;-) RitaZ: sang, sorry VanceS: thanks VanceS: I meant to record a complete rendition RitaZ: have you seen it up? VanceS: since I forgot the workds VanceS: yes I have seen it VanceS: do you want the complete recordign or is it past history now RitaZ: I made the stds write a report with their impressions, yours will be up soon, if its not yet RitaZ: the complete recording is up, just edited the start VanceS: but I mean would you like for me to record the song RitaZ: and they've been exchanging views and experiences in class, good work it was VanceS: separately RitaZ: that would be GREAT! VanceS: ok RitaZ: only if you have the time, V VanceS: I think I'm all by myself right now RitaZ: I know you are swamped all the time...:-) VanceS: bobbi is away so I have more time just now RitaZ: with tasks and duties and the joys of life ;-) VanceS: ah joys of life RitaZ: ahhhhhhhhh, hmmmmmm RitaZ: bye BJ and Vance, cya VanceS: me too, gotta run VanceS: cya next week VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.06.15 07:22:56 Signoff